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So if you work fewer than 15 hours, you don’t get any health insurance? Surely, those people would need it covered the most.

What happens if you get sick in your first year of working for Apple? No job, no money, no coverage?

Of course, Apple Store employees in Canada and the UK have 100% medical insurance coverage, regardless of their hours or length of time with the company.

Mac Guy October 26, 2009 at 6:25 am

It’s important to note that the cost of providing insurance to employees is tax deductible to the company. However, one of the ideas circulating right now is to either remove or reduce the tax credit to companies providing insurance in order to pay for universal health care. Good for Apple to step up to the plate and do the right thing for ALL their employees. They are the public face of the company and drive sales.

Jose October 26, 2009 at 6:50 am

Mac Guy,

Anybody working fewer than 15 hours in non-commission retail is clearly not making their living at it, it’s likely second job. Also, they are the least committed of the workforce, least practiced, and most likely to not show up for shifts.

Providing the benefits for those people would just be foolish and Apple would have a workforce made up of those only working there one day per week in order to receive benefits. Not what you want to encourage as the face of your company.

Another Mac Guy October 26, 2009 at 8:21 am

I feel soo lucky to live in the UK :-)

Tom October 26, 2009 at 8:37 am

Another Mac Guy,

So why do part-time employees in Apple Store employees in Canada and the UK bother to show up for work if their employer doesn’t have the stick of health care to lord over them?

Really, playing with people’s lives like that for commercial gain horrifies me.

Mac Guy October 26, 2009 at 8:59 am

“Another Mac Guy,

So why do part-time employees in Apple Store employees in Canada and the UK bother to show up for work if their employer doesn’t have the stick of health care to lord over them?

Really, playing with people’s lives like that for commercial gain horrifies me.

Mac Guy”

Huh?

Joe October 26, 2009 at 9:24 am

Ah, the ironies of my life. I just spent about a month pressuring my Apple Store managers to move me to full time, which they finally did. I really didn’t need the extra hours or the other benefits, what I really needed was health coverage. I would have qualified for this in an instant because I have over a year residency at Apple, and I work well over 15 hours a week.

I am pleased to hear this though, as it’s good news for all my coworkers and the company in general.

Marcus October 26, 2009 at 10:11 am

Apple does not provide its part time Canadian retail employees with health care. In canada health care is provided by the government and it covers things such as doctor visits, EMS, and various surgeries that are deemed medically necessary. It does not cover prescriptions, dental or eye care and a variety of specialists. In canada there are extended health plans that are offered by private insurers that cover prescriptions, dental and eye care and covers the cost to see certain specialists. Apple offers EXTENDED health insurance coverage ONLY for their full time employees in Canada.

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Both Mac guys,

From the sounds of it, the health care options for both part time AND full time employees are opt-in. Many of the part timers are college kids who don’t need/want insurance (why spend the beer money when mom and dad or BlueCross have cheap insurance for you already?), and others are retirees, self employeed, or house-spouses who want to have fun in WIlly Wonka’s Computer Factory. Sadly, though, in this economy, what used to be a “second job” can very quickly become an “only job.” I know 3 teachers who work weekends and some evenings at two different Apple Stores in a state that is likely going to be shuttering lots of schools. One of those guys just had a baby. When the local grocery chain gives ALL their employees health benefits, why can’t a multinational corp with $35Billion in the bank at least offer to help some of their parttimers with realworld needs?

El Wozo October 27, 2009 at 9:56 am

This has not been announced internally, but I don’t doubt that this issue was raised quite a bit in the last survey. I know many people would take advantage of this offering.

Also notable is how the Mac web is reporting this news and attributing heavily to this single article. Is ifo even news or is it just like Fox Noise?

As for part time being a “second job” or workers not being “committed” if they’d only schedule the hours, they’d be more than thrilled to work. Instead they keep bringing on new people and screwing over the existing employees.

Guest October 27, 2009 at 11:49 am

That’s nice. But lack of health insurance is not the core reason why the employees are “dissatisfied”.

guest October 28, 2009 at 10:03 am

China will have full healthcare for all of their citizens in a year. Iraq has in their new constitution that everyone will have the right to healthcare.

Marktrek October 28, 2009 at 8:29 pm

The announcement came this morning from Ron Johnson. I don’t know what else we would be dissatisfied about, but this indeed makes me very satisfied.

Guest October 28, 2009 at 9:30 pm

So apparently Mac Guy’s an idiot. If there’s universal healthcare in a country you wouldn’t need it at work anyway. Oh, I forgot. Your universal healthcare sucks.

Smart Mac Guy October 30, 2009 at 7:06 am
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