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I am a huge Apple fan, but this seems like such a waste of money. 3.8 million could support 100,000 children through Compassion Ministries for a month.

Ron October 24, 2009 at 8:36 pm

It’ll be interesting to see an Apple-designed subway station…

Aaron October 24, 2009 at 9:30 pm

Ron, by your logic, no one should ever invest in anything, because all money should be consumed on immediate needs. Investment leads to growth in available resources. The stream of returns on that investment can then fund and endless series of worthy projects.

Todd October 24, 2009 at 10:59 pm

@Ron

Don’t get me wrong I am a huge supporter of feed the children.

After feeding them for 1 month then what?

Or provide steady employment for people who need jobs and mouths to feed.

I would prefer the latter.

Remember the saying give a fish a man you feed him for a day, teach him to fish you feed him for a life time, although the situation may be different but the idea is the same.

AdamC October 24, 2009 at 11:01 pm

This answers a very big question in my book about Apple and their tendency to be peculiar about surrounding appearances. Anyone remember the San Francisco store oopening and the building next door? They had the plywood front plastered with the then silhouette iPod ads, then someone (Apple?) tore the bulding down, and all this was after they Photoshopped out the structure in it’s online photos.

How will Apple makeover the CTA station and turnaround? Well for one, there’s a wall that’s about 2′ high surrounding the turnaround with a rusting and bland metal fence on top of it. It used to separate out foot traffic from the gas station, but now Apple probably wants that all opened up for more exposure. That wall and fence are sure to go and be replaced by small shrubs and ground cover, maybe even a park like atmosphere, but remember Apple doesn’t like trees to block their stores. At the Michigan Avenue store, they conducted all the construction around two large trees along Mich Ave, just to cut them down and replace them with trees with less sprawl and smaller leaves so the Apple window can be clearly seen.

As for the peeling paint, windows, and interior, I’m not real sure what could come of it. I’m guessing the small individual windows will be replaced by large(r), tall sheets of glass which will provide both a modern look and MUCH more natural light. I can’t see why Apple would want the CTA station to look like an Apple store, so don’t expect stainless steel. Probably just the needed sanding and fresh paint which will help to clean up the facility. This is also NOT a reconstruction, so elevators and other ADA accessibility is NOT coming, sorry to those folks. Maybe electronic doors, maybe some of those new LCDs for ads and facts that the CTA likes to be adding lately, maybe more security cameras especially the wake of the assault that occurred a month or so ago after leaving the station, those could all come, but expect the bus turnaround, including it’s frankensteined pavement to bear the brunt of the money.

This will be a nice “donation” to the CTA, City, and the neighborhood.

-Brian

Brian Kaempen October 25, 2009 at 12:09 am

So how do you make a contribution to Compassion Ministries?

Marktrek October 25, 2009 at 3:46 am

Lots of places to make donations. How about you just give some money to UNICEF? $50 will immunize hundreds of children against smallpox. Right now they are running some campaigns for education and physical activity but you can help with clean water, schooling, food, vaccinations, anti-malaria pills, you name it. http://www.supportunicef.org/

As for Apple, it won’t save the world, but its a sight better than the sort of sweetheart deals municipalities have tended to give big corporations in exchange for nothing better than the promise of jobs.

huxley October 25, 2009 at 6:48 am

Parking an Apple store right there is going to hit that shopping area like a ton of bricks. Interesting.

Mike Bentley October 25, 2009 at 8:29 pm

“marred by…an old architecture.” Nice. So is the Acropolis, The Sistine Chapel and The White House. [IFO -- Well, "old" as far as Apple is concerned. I acknowledge the validity of old architecture in general.]

Good for Apple, good for Chicago, and I see Borders is getting ready too. Now that Apple has more cash on hand than Microsoft, this is chicken change. :)

Hovie October 25, 2009 at 9:22 pm

This is a wonderful piece of news. This station is unique in the CTA system in terms of being a subway with an actual head-house above ground as opposed to just a flight of stairs leading underground. It’s somewhat reminiscent of stations of a similar era in London. But the CTA has done a dreadful job of maintaining it.

I figure the $4 million should do fairly nicely on renovating the head-house. I can’t imagine they’ll be able to do much about the underground portion of the station on that amount of money, however. To make the station fully ADA-compliant and bring it up to modern standards would probably be $30 million or so just for the construction, seeing as you’re replacing escalators and adding elevators the station has never had, not to mention tunnel liners, drainage works, new electricals, lighting, sound deadener, new platforms and staircases and so on. And with the CTA having, once again, missed the opportunity of having a vacant site to stage construction from (in this case, the lot Apple is going in on), tack on another $30 to $35 million in logistics for bringing heavy equipment in and out every day and storing it off-site.

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For those who don’t live in Chicago, please don’t judge all CTA stations by this one. CTA has actually been spending quite a lot of money upgrading, and even rebuilding many stations in the system.

This situation seems like a good opportunity for CTA to partner with the private sector to get a needed upgrade made to what is becoming a very busy station. The Clybourn corridor is a busy shopping district but a lot of people tend to drive there. Cleaning up and refurbishing the L station would encourage a lot more people to take the Red Line there.

The store will be facing N. Halsted, however. So this station will actually be behind the store.

Mario October 27, 2009 at 8:57 am

“The CTA building dates to 1942 and is marred by peeling paint, obscured windows and an old architecture.”

How does 1940s Streamline Moderne architecture constitute “marring” the subway station?

The North/Clybourn Station is architecturally and historically significant, and is most likely eligible for the National Historic Register.

The CTA has made a point of sympathetically restoring some of its older stations from the 1920s and earlier, but has not yet done the same with its stations from the 1940s and 1950s.

David Hupp October 27, 2009 at 11:00 am

@David, that quote and associated picture say everything about this station. It has a great design with an actually large airy interior and a unique side platform layout, but years of slapping paint on top of old already peeling paint hasn’t worked. The CTA has learned that recently, like a year or two ago when they repainted all the canopies north of Sheridan and even at the Madison Loop stop right now, they’re actually sanding the surfaces down. The architecture isn’t marring the station, and “old architecture” doesn’t mean bad. As I’ve said now numerous times, new windows, entirely fresh siding and paint leaving the brick and stone in place, and then just a general cleaning of the interior will be great for this unique station.

-Brian

Brian Kaempen October 27, 2009 at 11:19 am

@Brian, I do hope that this is the case. The station really just needs some major cleaning and maintenance. I would hope that they would keep the same window mullion layout, though the station would look okay with large plate glass windows too.

The budget for the rehabilitation is only $4 million, which is pocketchange compared to the $67 million reconstruction of the Grand Red Line Station. At that small of a budget, they can’t really do anything drastic.

David Hupp October 27, 2009 at 12:02 pm

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/mag/article.pl?id=32544&seenIt=1

Crain’s say they won’t change the appearance of the station. [IFO - Well, perhaps the style or architecture won't change, but the appearance certainly will. On the other hand, it's hard to imagine how Apple would spend $1 million just to make the building look like it originally did in 1942. For $1 million, they should end up with lots more.]

David Hupp October 27, 2009 at 12:10 pm

Hoping for a rebound for the area? The area has flagship locations for Borders, Crate and Barrel, and was one of the original locations for CB2! There are mainly mid/high-end shops is this area. There’s nothing really else to rebuild except of course the station and what will soon be the Apple store. The station itself is really cool, but needs refurbishment. They probably have been neglecting it because it is next red-line subway station in line to be remodeled. Most of the other stations in the system are much better looking.

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The Grand/State renovation involved tearing up the street to excavate a bigger station below. Along one of Chicago’s busiest streets, surrounded by highrises that must be held back, that can get expensive. North/Clybourn is just getting a facelift – new brick, windows, floors, signage, and paint. All of that is relatively inexpensive.

Roland S October 29, 2009 at 1:30 am

Oh, and according to the agreement with the city, Apple will be replacing the doors and windows with new ones in, you guessed it, stainless steel. Of course, CTA’s been using stainless steel for years, so that’s nothing new. The turnstiles and ticket machines and such are already made of stainless.

Roland S October 29, 2009 at 1:32 am

There is a bus turnaround between the train station and the Apple store under construction. Perhaps, Apple will use this turnaround as a loading dock?

Someone should find out exactly what the lease with the CTA stipulates. That’s the real news of this story, and the fact that the CTA buried mention of this lease makes it [I]curiouser[/I] and [I]curiouser[/I]!

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