Comments on: Architect’s Plans Hint at Edinburgh Store http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/ news and information about Apple Inc.'s retail stores Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:21:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: John Muir http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-33189 John Muir Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:33:11 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-33189 Given this town's track record in budget blasting, years in arrears grand projects (Scottish Parliament at Holyrood, notorious, and the farcical trams, giving it a run for its money) I'd pencil in 2020 instead. Who's meant to be paying? The council will be in crisis over the tram debt for years, not least with a new London government's cuts. Maybe we could get by with a little mall store at Cameron Toll or the like? Honestly, our one Premium Apple Reseller (Cancom at the bridges) is at the bottom of that scale. Given this town’s track record in budget blasting, years in arrears grand projects (Scottish Parliament at Holyrood, notorious, and the farcical trams, giving it a run for its money) I’d pencil in 2020 instead. Who’s meant to be paying? The council will be in crisis over the tram debt for years, not least with a new London government’s cuts.

Maybe we could get by with a little mall store at Cameron Toll or the like? Honestly, our one Premium Apple Reseller (Cancom at the bridges) is at the bottom of that scale.

]]> By: Gary Allen http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-33186 Gary Allen Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:24:15 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-33186 Thanks for the possible store site—yes, it does look pretty amazing development, and a location where Apple would love to be. But Spring 2015?! Yikes! That's a long time to wait—but then, Apple has done <em>that</em> before, too. Thanks for the possible store site—yes, it does look pretty amazing development, and a location where Apple would love to be. But Spring 2015?! Yikes! That’s a long time to wait—but then, Apple has done that before, too.

]]> By: McWoo http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-33184 McWoo Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:03:58 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-33184 Apple might be waiting to move into the new revamped St James Centre www.stjamesquarter.info when its finally built out. Apple might be waiting to move into the new revamped St James Centre http://www.stjamesquarter.info when its finally built out.

]]> By: John Muir http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-33011 John Muir Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:29:16 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-33011 Sure, it's not a matter of if but when. Apple's getting to be a big presence on high streets all over Britain, and Edinburgh – in spite of itself – still has one of the most naturally appealing. Might even get more than one store eventually, if Bristol is anything to go by. Sure, it’s not a matter of if but when. Apple’s getting to be a big presence on high streets all over Britain, and Edinburgh – in spite of itself – still has one of the most naturally appealing. Might even get more than one store eventually, if Bristol is anything to go by.

]]> By: itsasecret http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-33010 itsasecret Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:18:21 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-33010 Haha.... I can confirm without a shadow of doubt that in addition to the current glasgow and aberdeen stores, further stores will be opening in edinburgh and dundee.... but you all probably know that already :) Haha…. I can confirm without a shadow of doubt that in addition to the current glasgow and aberdeen stores, further stores will be opening in edinburgh and dundee…. but you all probably know that already :)

]]> By: Eddie http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-31884 Eddie Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:19:37 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-31884 Princes Street is the only location that Apple would be interested in. Princes Street is at the moment resembling a war zone, and will be for another three years. They had found the ideal location, the current lease expired, and Apple let it go. Edinburgh Council is spending half a billion pounds on a tramway that no one wants, and is killing business in the city centre. It stands to reason that Apple would want nothing to do with such a mess. Princes Street is the only location that Apple would be interested in. Princes Street is at the moment resembling a war zone, and will be for another three years.
They had found the ideal location, the current lease expired, and Apple let it go.
Edinburgh Council is spending half a billion pounds on a tramway that no one wants, and is killing business in the city centre.
It stands to reason that Apple would want nothing to do with such a mess.

]]> By: Gerhard http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-31635 Gerhard Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:39:39 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-31635 The fact that they are opening a store in Aberdeen doesn't mean that they are not opening one in Edinburgh. Basically, Apple hasn't found the ideal location for they store in Edinburgh yet or, if they have, they are waiting for the current lease to expire. The fact that they are opening a store in Aberdeen doesn’t mean that they are not opening one in Edinburgh. Basically, Apple hasn’t found the ideal location for they store in Edinburgh yet or, if they have, they are waiting for the current lease to expire.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-31504 Eddie Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:48:00 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-31504 Definitely Urban Outfitters going into the Zavvi store! New plans are on line at the local Council. I reckon Apple has had a look at the state of Edinburgh City Centre and said ‘forget it!’ How could they have a grand opening in their usual style, with an 8 foot high wire fence and a huge building site 10 feet in front of their new shop front. The fact that they are now recruiting for a new store in Aberdeen means surely that Edinburgh will not see an Apple Store for a few years at least, until this tram nonsense is finally up and running or cancelled forever Definitely Urban Outfitters going into the Zavvi store!
New plans are on line at the local Council.

I reckon Apple has had a look at the state of Edinburgh City Centre and said ‘forget it!’
How could they have a grand opening in their usual style, with an 8 foot high wire fence and a huge building site 10 feet in front of their new shop front. The fact that they are now recruiting for a new store in Aberdeen means surely that Edinburgh will not see an Apple Store for a few years at least, until this tram nonsense is finally up and running or cancelled forever

]]> By: John Muir http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-31050 John Muir Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:03:55 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-31050 @Eddie Indeed. Princes Street was trending trashy well before its total shutdown to the road-works kicked in a month or two back. Even 18 months might be a bit optimistic given the fiasco surrounding the trams' funding: Check <a href ="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/8016093.stm" rel="nofollow">this link</a> There's an older thread here where some of us have been discussing the Princes Street spot for quite a while: Check <a href ="http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2008/04/28/second-scotland-store-confirmed/#comments" rel="nofollow">this link</a> As a commenter recently pointed out, Urban Outfitters' Glasgow store is a tiny fraction as big as this prospective one on Princes Street. Also: why the ambitious plans for renovation from someone less perfectionist than Apple? It's fair to say this is all a bit of a mystery as yet. @Eddie

Indeed. Princes Street was trending trashy well before its total shutdown to the road-works kicked in a month or two back. Even 18 months might be a bit optimistic given the fiasco surrounding the trams’ funding:

Check this link

There’s an older thread here where some of us have been discussing the Princes Street spot for quite a while:

Check this link

As a commenter recently pointed out, Urban Outfitters’ Glasgow store is a tiny fraction as big as this prospective one on Princes Street. Also: why the ambitious plans for renovation from someone less perfectionist than Apple?

It’s fair to say this is all a bit of a mystery as yet.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-31049 Eddie Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:49:15 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-31049 John - there is indeed a car park there, access from Rose Street, servicing the retail space and the four floors of office space above. If Apple is renting, they will only be interested in the basement, ground floor and mezzanine. The frontage is indeed planned to be straight rather than the angled recess as at the moment. However, Urban Outfitters is a pretty big outfit - they could well be the next tenants. Their image is fairly trashy so they'll fit in to the general standard now populating Princes Street. Apple may have moved on and shelved the Edinburgh plans - they have started taking job applications for a new store in Aberdeen. The current state of Princes Street would put anyone off. Apple certainly would not want to have a grand opening facing on to 8' fencing and 18 months of road works for the new tram system. John – there is indeed a car park there, access from Rose Street, servicing the retail space and the four floors of office space above. If Apple is renting, they will only be interested in the basement, ground floor and mezzanine.
The frontage is indeed planned to be straight rather than the angled recess as at the moment.
However, Urban Outfitters is a pretty big outfit – they could well be the next tenants. Their image is fairly trashy so they’ll fit in to the general standard now populating Princes Street.
Apple may have moved on and shelved the Edinburgh plans – they have started taking job applications for a new store in Aberdeen. The current state of Princes Street would put anyone off. Apple certainly would not want to have a grand opening facing on to 8′ fencing and 18 months of road works for the new tram system.

]]> By: John Muir http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-30975 John Muir Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:57:26 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-30975 Curious… I know that old building pretty well from dozens of years visits while growing up, and there's no way there's a garage up there above the doors. The current mezzanine used to be the customer complaints / jazz section (nice combination!) and the basement was Virgin's fairly voluminous games and movies floor which used to be a big draw. The stairs were metal with yellow and black "industrial" stripes, and I remember it feeling like paying a visit to the GamesMaster on my first trip when they moved into that location. Ah, how dated! Certainly, it's a pretty generic and messy building, like almost all of Princes Street. Any sign that the front entrance is to be straightened up? Currently it's a bit of a hobo and advertiser magnet as the door to Princes Street is inset by a couple of metres in a triangle. Curious…

I know that old building pretty well from dozens of years visits while growing up, and there’s no way there’s a garage up there above the doors. The current mezzanine used to be the customer complaints / jazz section (nice combination!) and the basement was Virgin’s fairly voluminous games and movies floor which used to be a big draw. The stairs were metal with yellow and black “industrial” stripes, and I remember it feeling like paying a visit to the GamesMaster on my first trip when they moved into that location. Ah, how dated!

Certainly, it’s a pretty generic and messy building, like almost all of Princes Street. Any sign that the front entrance is to be straightened up? Currently it’s a bit of a hobo and advertiser magnet as the door to Princes Street is inset by a couple of metres in a triangle.

]]> By: maccoinnich http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-30963 maccoinnich Thu, 09 Apr 2009 11:22:27 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-30963 Edinburgh Evening News thinks otherwise: http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Urban-Outfitters-targets-empty-Princes.5049490.jp Edinburgh Evening News thinks otherwise:

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Urban-Outfitters-targets-empty-Princes.5049490.jp

]]> By: Gary Allen http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-30962 Gary Allen Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:23:02 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-30962 Patrick - To be clear, someone is renovating the entire building, which already included that car park on the upper level. It's not clear from the plans if Apple plans to occupy any of the upper-floor office space. Some other international locations have training, meeting and office space in the same building as the stores. Could be here, too. Patrick – To be clear, someone is renovating the entire building, which already included that car park on the upper level. It’s not clear from the plans if Apple plans to occupy any of the upper-floor office space. Some other international locations have training, meeting and office space in the same building as the stores. Could be here, too.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/2009/04/08/architects-plans-hint-at-edinburgh-store/comment-page-1/#comment-30961 Patrick Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:13:13 +0000 http://www.ifoapplestore.com/db/?p=4608#comment-30961 Great snooping Gary! I always wonder whether you get these stories from tips or just hard slogging of looking online. We may never know, but interesting to see the possible plans so early. I definitely agree that the car-park on the first floor is a very bizarre addition. Apart from that it looks like a classic Apple-style retail location. Great snooping Gary! I always wonder whether you get these stories from tips or just hard slogging of looking online. We may never know, but interesting to see the possible plans so early. I definitely agree that the car-park on the first floor is a very bizarre addition. Apart from that it looks like a classic Apple-style retail location.

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