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You could buy a desktop at this store and take delivery of it back home (you would not have to carry it home with your luggage). It could ship from Apples regular online store warehouse right to your front door OR you could pick up your new Mac at your local Apple store when you got back home. Apple rarely does anything without market research. I suspect the store will do quite well.

Jeff August 4, 2007 at 6:59 am

Are you kidding? Japanese and Chinese tourists will set new records for laptop and iPhone sales! I just got back from Singapore and you should have seen all the white Apple logos shining in the cabin! I think the location is brilliant! When I was going through Security at Hong Kong airport between planes I started a minor slowdown in the line because the security employees were playing with my iPhone!

Mike Kaufmann August 4, 2007 at 7:22 am

I’d have to say that Canadians aren’t alone - it’s not natural for Australians to tip either. To us tipping seems like having to bribe the shop assistant/waiter/whatever to do their job and we hate it. It feels very third world - it seems to smack of corruption, “greasing the palm” and graft etc.

In Australia, wages actually mean something I guess? However, our current Prime Minister seems hell bent on hammering away at the minimum wage so who knows maybe someday soon when it’s not possible to survive on your salary alone, we’ll be wishing giving tips was part of our culture after all. :-(

-Mart

Martin Hill August 4, 2007 at 7:28 am

I think youʻre right, marketing purposes is the primary reason. However, for some reason alot of Japanese tourist do buy alot of Apple stuff. i think there are alot of people in Waikiki that donʻt drive. And are in walking distance of Royal Hawn Shpg Ctr.

Youʻre right that West side is where the growth is tho. but Waikele isnʻt the place for Apple. They need more restaurants, then you will see people.

Iʻm a stockholder of AAPL so weʻll see how it goes.
-GM

gmac August 4, 2007 at 11:48 am

One of Apple’s most profitable stores is the Fifth Avenue store in Manhattan. This area has lots of luxury stores that are heavily frequented by tourists. I’m sure the Waikiki store will have great exposure as you say, but I’m sure it will also be quite profitable. Apple has been quite disciplined in their retail strategies and openings.

Locals will be willing to travel much more than tourists with slightly limited transportation options. Plus these flagship stores have a history of performing extremely well.

NewYorker August 4, 2007 at 5:25 pm

Plenty of businesses in downtown Honolulu as well, which could generate significant traffic to this location. General exposure, iPhones and laptops are all good reasons to have another store here.

LonePalm August 4, 2007 at 6:58 pm

I think that Apple has possibly make its decision to move forward with the store in Waikiki based on the demographics of their Las Vegas Fashion Show Mall location, which is on the strip and does a tremendous amount of business with visitors.

The visitor count from Asia is extremely high in Hawaii, and although travelers frequent other locations, Waikiki remains the mainstay location for them.

Many Asian visitors, especially the Japanese, come to Hawaii to shop as prices there are definitively better than at home.

Asians are very brand driven, and of course, Apple has become one of the hottest name brands, making it a must have possession.

The fact that Apple hardware and software has singularly redefined and brought excitement back to the world of computers, portable multimedia devices and music/video distribution, and now, the hippest portable computer which just happens to be a cellphone, the iPhone, is a factor in their popularity in Asia, as they are tech and function driven by nature.

I think the Waikiki Apple Store will do very well. MHO of course.

Dennis Kim August 4, 2007 at 7:33 pm

Actually, lots of tourists buy laptops and gear in the USA. It’s a lot cheaper over here. I work with folks from all over the EU and the Near/Far East, and they always come over with empty laptop bags, and go back with new kit. They don’t get charged customs, since it is assumed they had the laptop when they left their home, and they don’t buy crazy high VAT, etc.

mindflayer August 4, 2007 at 8:55 pm

Just to make sure of what I’m seeing on Google Earth. This appears to be a shopping district like Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, CA. Kind of sounds like a flagship location to me. My last visit to Hawaii was 1988 and I’m pretty sure I walked through Ala Moana Help me out.

Cedric Brown August 5, 2007 at 12:05 am

Which locals won’t go? My guess is the ones with money do go, and that’s the group Apple is aiming at with this store.

JD August 5, 2007 at 1:34 am

You will get a forign tourist and buisness men who will buy to beat the currency exchange rate or skip the VAT (or other taxes)

Daniel August 5, 2007 at 5:17 am

Waikiki is tourist only, locals don’t go there. Traffic, crime, glitz and schlock. Cheap package deals from the midwest and southern US brings loads of middle America to Waikiki that may not have an Apple exposure otherwise. Same for Asians which are all on package travel.

Well heeled travellers stay in the resorts, which are typically on the other islands, or outside Wikiki, with only a couple of first class resorts actually on Waikiki. It is mostly cheaper hotels in Waikiki and is almost all walking traffic, not driving.

Sales are secondary to product exposure with this new store.

The Ala Moana store is only about a mile away, but serves an entirely different demographic, and is physically separated from Waikiki.

bob franklin August 5, 2007 at 12:06 pm

Unlike when Apple decided to put a second store at Kahala Mall (which was more of a headscratcher to me and did not make sense considering the Ala Moana location isn’t that far away), a Waikiki store especially if it is a flagship makes plenty sense from a product exposure perspective. A store out on the west side like at Pearlridge also makes sense but maybe it does not fit Apple’s profile requirements? Unlike Kahala which is in a pricier neighborhood, Pearlridge does not even have that going for it and also has an absolutely horrible retail mix (it is like a joke there); the main reason people go there to begin with is either for the theaters or to hang out in the air-conditioned environment. Despite living on the west side, I normally don’t even waste my time going there (except for Sears and the satellite city hall) and just head to Ala Moana.

As a frequent visitor to Japan, the flagship stores in Ginza (Tokyo) and Shinsaibashi (Osaka) were always packed when I visited them and you would always see plenty of foreign tourists included in the mix. The Waikiki location would primarily be targeting an international demographic but will still serve the local community since it is still the destination for things like parties, weddings, etc not to mention residents living in condos in the area. We occasionally eat at restaurants in Waikiki and with the full parking validation (good for 2-3 hours at some places), go walking around. As a matter of fact, if you eat or shop at the Royal Hawaiian Shopping Center (which is undergoing an complete renovation), you can get an extension on the parking validation (ask for details and they’ll tell you where to go).

To Cedric Brown, the shopping center resides along Waikiki’s main eastward avenue, Kalakaua Avenue and fronts both the Sheraton Waikiki and Sheraton Royal Hawaiian hotels. If you use this Google Maps link, the shopping center is to the left of the B:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&q=royal+hawaiian+shopping+center&near=waikiki+hawaii&ie=UTF8&ll=21.278038,-157.828147&spn=0.003104,0.004399&t=k&z=18&om=1

The Sheraton Waikiki and Sheraton Moana Surfrider (which is just a short block east down Kalakaua Avenue) are two hotels used frequently by visitors from Asia. The Center Stage at the shopping center is also used by both the Pan-Pacific Festival and sometimes the Honolulu Festival for various events and performances (both festivals have a large number of participants from Japan and attract a growing number of visitors who come for each events respective parades).

DP August 5, 2007 at 4:18 pm

actually,

even local people with lots of money dont really go to waikiki as often as you think. waikiki is the ultimate tourist trap, always crowded, often marked-up shopping, rookie-cop central, parking is a nightmare, and just gets pretty boring real fast for us locals.

ala moana caters to everyone, and has a better mix of stores. basially whatever GGP (general growth properties), owner of ala moana and ward shopping malls, have an exclusive mix of stores and boutiques. a lot of tourist and locals go there instead.

the kahala mall location of the apple store is more mellow, less foot traffic, and is in the neighborhood of multimillion dollar houses, beach front properties, etc. locals in that region flock that area, but still go over to ala moana.

ala moana is the hub of shopping. at the rate they’re expanding, including the 3rd phase which will add a nordstrom, and i believe 30 new shops,ala moana is still gonna have a big impact on waikiki.

but yeah, i think apple in waikiki is more of visual reminder. catering the residents of waikiki, occassional locals, and all tourists too lazy to take the bus, trolley, drive, taxi, cab to travel a short 5-10 minute ride to ala moana.

wosh August 16, 2007 at 3:26 pm

Apple will have three stores in a distance of four miles. It is great exposure for an international crowd, especially good if Apple does add all of the stores that ifoapplestore has listed in Japan, and also if they are opening up other countries such as Australia. But again, who are the customers. Notice that DP who has two hours after eating at a Waikiki restaurant still does not say that he goes shopping. Most Honolulu residents eating in Waikiki are there to met a guest from the mainland, again not to go shopping. Waikiki does have almost 40,000 residents but they are retired, young short timers (in other words, people without disposable income) or people who could just as easily go to Ala Moana. Even the tourists think that Ala Moana is a cheaper place to shop. Furthermore the Hilton Hawaiian village, the military hotel Hale Koa (House of the Warrior) or other hotel and condos on that side of Waikiki are closer to Ala Moana than the Royal Hawaiian Shopping center.
But if you would like to see construction photos

Mark Wilson August 16, 2007 at 6:34 pm

New Address for the Royal Hawaiian Shopping center photos
http://web.mac.com/marktrek/iWeb/Site%202/Royal%20Hawaiian%20Shopping%20Center.html

Mark Wilson August 21, 2007 at 11:27 am

This is ridiculous. How many Apple retail stores can fit in a five mile radius?

I wish they’d put a store in Pearl Ridge–where people go to shop without being mobbed by tourists!

Right now I usually go all the way from the Pearl Harbor area to the Kahala Mall to avoid the Ala Moana nightmare. It would be so nice to be able to drive 5 minutes Ewa instead…but I’m already a customer. I guess I’m not exactly the target.

C. Vadnais August 28, 2007 at 10:52 am

To say that locals avoid Waikiki like the plague is NOT true at all- there are many fine things to do in Waikiki, and although it may be a “tourist trap” it’s a nice one and it’s “everything’s here!” style helps make Waikiki unique. However parking is a huge reason why locals try not to go to Waikiki just for fun. Remember, however, there are thousands who actually LIVE in waikiki, and even more who work in the hotels and restraunts (and probably wouldn’t mind the free Internet access)

The Ala Moana location is well placed but it also feels very small- however it is very functional as well. But “expsoure” is non-existent at the Ala Moana location- the store sits recessed in the Macy’s corner. You pretty much go there if you already want to.

The Kahala location has definitley boggled my mind too. It’s small and in an area that’s not very populated. Maybe the rent was cheap? Weird…

If Apple is going to add a store to Waikiki at the Royal Hawaiian Shopping Center, and if the store is 2-storys and fronting Kalakaua, I agree that the store will mainly be a marketing tool / exposure point. Millions of tourists every year pass by on taxis, tour busses, and by foot through Kalakaua and having such an imposing Apple Store is definitley a presence. Also, many Japanese might buy iPods in the US instead of back home because it’s so much cheaper- heck, many Japanese / Asians come to Hawaii just to buy brand name things here because its cheaper than back home!

Looking forward to the Apple store at the RHSC. I think once Kapolei has a decent shopping center, Apple will also add one there too- right now I dont see any of the west side shopping centers fitting Apple’s business plan.

c-dubs September 8, 2007 at 2:55 am

I think that the new Apple Store will do exceptional due to the fact that the Royal Hawaiian Shopping Center will be the newest premier shopping place on the Island. With stores and restaurants that Ala Moana mall does not offer such as Cheesecake Factory, Doraku Sushi, W Steak, Senior Frogs and more. In fact, I think local visits will be up to the visit. Then we have the Waikiki Beach Walk which is Home to Holokai Grill, Ruth Chris and Yard House to name a few. The reason why I mention food is because I am hungry… Ha-ha just kidding, but in Hawaii we have this concept called “Ohaha” it means family… Families love to eat out and “celebrate”… I think they’ll be out. Plus did you see the new design on the Store? It’s going to be grand!!!

I also agree with the above comments of Tourist in the Asian market buying apples out in Hawaii because it is actually cheaper. Sound like a plan. I think I may just want to buy my next Apple from its new Location.

Blessings to y’all and don’t forget…..IGNITE a REVOLUTION!

Veronica Feinstein September 14, 2007 at 1:26 pm

I think it’s great!! Since I’m one of the 40,000+ working and living in Waikiki who frequent Apple Store at ala moana for my computing and accessorie needs, 15 min. walk to the new store isn’t a problem. I do understand parking could be a little difficult if you have to drive here.

Anyway, most of the millions of tourist at waikiki do walk during vacation, I bet most will go into the store and be exposed to the products they offer. It’s only 5 to 25 min. walking time from most of the hotels in Waikiki. I bet the design alone will lure people to come in like that in Manhattan or other parts of the world. Apple flagship stores are like works of art…their beautiful.

I’m pretty sure the free internet access will be a big hit to tourist and resedents alike.

sunsetlate September 29, 2007 at 3:10 pm

Living across the Ala Wai from Waikiki and working daily in “The Jungle”, I think that a Apple store in the RHSC is going to be more of a marketing thing then just sales. Although, if all the other high-end stores are an indication, they will make ton of money in Waikiki too. Look at Louis Vitton- they too have two stores within a mile of each other. One in Ala Moana (A two-story) and one at the corner of Kalakaua and Lewers. They make money at both stores.

I, for one, would be looking forward to it, since it’s going to be where i work. If I have 1 hour of “downtime” between airport shuttle runs, I might go over there and play with an iPhone, or take my laptop in for repairs… If I was a tourist, while my wife (well, when I get married) was shopping for clothes and what not, I could just geek out for a little at the Apple Store. I think that many locals might not go to the RHSC site but enough visitors and locals working in Waikiki will for sure become frequent visitors.

The reason the Apple store in RHSC can’t really be compared to the one in Ala Moana is mainly the location of the Ala Moana store- it’s about the same size as most boutique stores in the shopping center, and sort of tucked away on the Diamond head side. I think it serves as a great place for locals to get Apple Care, but tourists are probably not going to see it as visibly as this RHSC store. The Kahala location sound sort of odd, due to the lower population count in the east side and that Kahala mall isnt “iconic” or has huge passenger traffic, but I guess most people buying Apple in hawaii live on that side and I bet Kahala mall gave Apple a good deal on the rent in exchange to place a store there.

I hope Apple looks to addding a store in Kapolei Commons soon because that’s the next area of grownth on this Island and where more and more of those who live on O’ahu will go to shop as soon as its done.

About Parking, btw, that’s totally true, and i hope that one day soon someone will come up with a decently-priced parking garage for us locals to park in… right now, parking in Waikiki is horrible, and it’s hurting it more than helping.

C-Dubs January 30, 2008 at 2:58 pm

The Kahala store is quite useful, actually. Heck, I was just there Friday, picking up something to ship to Austin, TX.

The reason there isn’t an Apple store in Pearlridge is the same reason why you won’t find Whole Foods in Pearlridge, wrong demographic. Whole Foods is moving into Kahala Mall and Ward (essentially the same set of blocks that Ala Moana occupies.

The Waikiki store makes about as much sense to me as the Apple store in “The Domain” in Austin. Its as much about creating the illusion of success and luxury as anything else.

Jim Thompson May 11, 2008 at 8:38 pm
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