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$200 million a year money machine? Wow.

It makes sense that there’s a wide range in the stores’ detailed results since they are a fairly diverse set. Would have liked to hear about the overseas ones of course (still waiting for Edinburgh, Scotland’s addition) to get a handle on international differences too. For instance, how are those Japanese stores going while Japan’s computer market stagnates as a whole and Apple routinely express concern at their own showing there?

John Muir July 28, 2007 at 4:48 am

I used to work for an Apple Retail Store several years back. Personally, I think the metrics of a particular store have a great deal to do with the quality of a staff and its management team.
Overly zealous sales people can be a turn-off and the push to always attach can be a downer for a prospective buyer. Conversely, stores that run too lean on staff can actually bost the sales of “pro care” like program, as the customer feels that is their only avenue to guarrantee help when they need it.
Sales of Applecare is best done by the Genius staff, as they are the ones who repair machines and can give a legitmacy to the program.
The problem is that many managers don’t care about the quality of their sales staff as long as they hit their respective numbers. The result can be a sales floor filled with quick talkers who lack real mac knowledge. When retail first started, many of the staff were true mac heads who brought their own legitimate passion and knowledge of the platform which in turn created a special atmosphere that was good for both sales and the customer.
As retail has grown and become successful, Apple risks losing that quality and simply becoming another Best Buy or Circuit City where everyone on the floor pushes the TAP but can’t really provide the knowledge of a mac enthusiast.

Bruno Dexter July 28, 2007 at 10:42 am

Don’t hear too many of the naysayer analysts anymore that pooh-poohed Apple’s decision to open their own stores.

Neil Anderson July 28, 2007 at 12:36 pm

It seems a shame that Apple won’t release more info on the stores but the figures quoted in the article raise speculation that the “profits” aren’t really true.

If they were, Apple’s marketshare would be larger than it is.

I’ve been an Apple only user for almost 20 years but recently I’ve been reading stories about how the dealer channel is been adversely affected by not being able to offer the same products, services and products as Apple’s own stores. This is a definite disadvantage not to just the dealers but also their customers. (I won’t shop in another Apple store again for a number of reasons).

How do you the Ford or GM dealers would react if Ford or GM decided to open and compete with their deal channels?

I’ve also been pointed in an area that really concerns me, out-of-warranty repairs. The Apple stores won’t do them or upgrades, and the dealer channel can’t stay in business, where do we customers then go?

Peter Gordon July 28, 2007 at 1:22 pm

I wouldn’t argue with Bruno since he is definitely speaking from personal experience. However I would submit that it may be a narrow vision of one particular store. If this is true it only goes to prove the article’s point that each store is in fact different. I know of many stores who still have knowledgeable mac specialists who can also sell ice to an eskimo.

As for Peter Gordon, you couldn’t be more wrong. Profit and marketshare aren’t related at all. Here’s the link to prove that the numbers are in fact true: http://library.corporate-ir.net/library/10/107/107357/items/245168/10Q_Q2FY07.pdf (It’s a public link.) Incidentally, didn’t Apple’s market share increase percentage for 1Q07 just far exceed both Dell and HP?

As for in or out of warranty computers at Apple or not Apple, I guess I would just personally prefer someone who repairs my machine to be part of the same company that built my machine. And to imply that Apple is putting ALL the dealer channels out of business is just absurd. Go to any Apple retail location. Ask them to refer you to their local dealer/repair house of choice and you’ll see.

Jay Row July 28, 2007 at 2:34 pm

Apple sfores do out of warranty repairs all the time on computers, at least the ones in my town do. Even on iPods, a friend of mine had an out
of warranty video iPod replaced (the whole thing) for $149, much less than the cost of a new one.

David July 29, 2007 at 8:18 am

Jay and David make some great points, however, in my neck of the woods, the stores do not do repairs on out of warranty units and try to sell new ones.

My major problem and why I wont go there any more, “service tech’s” that aren’t certified like the ones at the channel partner service provider that have to be certified by Apple (Hmmmmmmmmmm, advantage+).

David, Apple service center partners are not allowed to service iPods and therefore cannot exchange them for any price and that’s my point exactly, unfair and unleveled playing field for those independents who supported the company ((Apple) for many many years through the bad times.

Don’t start me on the iPhone that I couldn’t buyer from my local dealer and the bad attitude I got from the AT&T store that forced me to an Apple store……. interesting I think.

Peter Gordon July 29, 2007 at 10:48 pm

Jay,

Certified or not? That’s the question. As to being referred from an Apple store to an independent, not on the West Coast. I had to call Apple and demand names and numbers of service providers that could help, the closest, 63.4 miles one way for drop off, had to leave it as they part was on backorder at Apple. 63.4 miles to go home, 63.4 miles 4 days later to pick it up and 63.4 miles to take it home.

Interestingly enough, the dealer principle, when asked, how about opening in our area advised that he had applied to Apple and was rejected. Again, customer service??????????????

Peter Gordon July 29, 2007 at 10:53 pm
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