Firing Upheld for Employee’s Negative Facebook Posts

November 1, 2011

The British government’s Employment Tribunal has upheld Apple’s firing of a retail store employee who posted negative comments about the stores and the company on Facebook, saying the company had a formal and clear policy that prohibited negative comments posted to social media Web sites. After being fired for “gross misconduct,” the employee Samuel Crisp appealed to the UK labor agency, noting that the posts had been tagged as private. As analyzed on the People Management Web site by attorney Jamie Hamnett of the law firm Addleshaw Goddard LLP, a key element of the tribunal’s decision was that Apple, “made it absolutely plain throughout the induction process that commentary on Apple products, or critical remarks about the brand, were strictly prohibited.” Hammett noted that the tribunal took into account that such comments “would be particularly damaging for Apple as image is so central to its success.” Therefore, “Apple successfully argued that it was justified and proportionate to limit this right (of posting) in order to protect its commercial reputation against potentially damaging posts.”

According to the tribunal’s decision, Crisp posted on his Facebook page, “once again fuck you very much work,” and, “MobileMe fucked up my timezone of rthe third in a week and woke me up at 3am? JOY!!” The posts were made to private pages, but the tribunal pointed out, even private posts on Facebook can be copied and distributed. In this case, a co-worker was one of Crisp’s Facebook friends, and and shared the posts with the Apple store manager, who immediately suspended him. Crisp removed the offending posts, and Apple then scheduled an investigatory meeting last December. He provided little explanation for the posts, the tribunal judgement notes, and so a disciplinary hearing was schedule for the next week.

“The Claimant was not forthcoming with answers” at the hearing, the tribunal said in its judgement. He responded to questions with either “No” or “No comment.” He did present a prepared statement that emphasized that the Facebook posts were private. However, senior manager Jason Vermeulen was not persuaded, and formally informed Crisp the same day of the hearing for “bringing the company into disrepute,” which amounts to gross misconduct.

Crisp appealed the decision within Apple, and a hearing was held January 7, 2011 with the store leader from the White City Apple store. Crisp again provided few answers to questions, the tribunal states, and the store leader upheld the termination decision.

The tribunal considered that Crisp completed just 2½ days of the 10-day core employee training program. But Apple showed the tribunal that during that training, they presented the appropriate sections of training that noted Apple employees “should not display commentary about Apple products, services or initiatives on personal websites, and violation of this policy could result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination.”

The tribunal also considered if dismissal was reasonable for the misconduct that Crisp admitted. Considering all the applicable UK law, the tribunal found the terminal was reasonable.

Hammett said the tribunal’s decision serves as a warning for employees who use social networks. “Once posted, it will be difficult to show the necessary degree of control over Facebook comments as—by the very nature of the Internet—these may be copied and passed on with ease.” The case should also remind employers that they should have, “a comprehensive social media policy that prohibits derogatory remarks about the business and its products on social networks, and states clearly that a breach of the policy could result in disciplinary action, up to and including summary dismissal.”

Download (pdf) the tribunal’s full judgement for more details, along with an analysis of the case by barrister Mo Sethi, who represented Apple in the appeal to the tribunal.

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DB November 1, 2011 at 0805

No doubt. Whilst I worked for Apple Retail in the UK there were several people fired for comments posted on social networking sites. As the saying goes; they’ve got you by the balls.

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James November 1, 2011 at 0815

he should have been fired, if you don’t like the company you’re working for then quit. you should have the right to talked negatively about them then expect a paycheck for it

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Rich November 2, 2011 at 2037

What a bunch of hippocrits here, EVERYONE has bad things to say about their employers, it’s just natural, we’re human for chrissakes!! No one works for a mary poppins company, there’s good and bad, and I see no reason to be fired.

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Georgi November 3, 2011 at 0633

There is no reason to be fired for having bad things with the company. But it is not a good idea to “take the garbage out to the public”. Job is like a marriage. It is OK to discuss bad things with a spouse, but marriage won’t last long if you start twitting about it.

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Jim November 1, 2011 at 0925

Freedom of speech does not include freedom from repercussions. You have the right to say whatever you want, but your company also has the right to terminate you for it. Exercising a little common sense goes a long way here.

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Lesly November 3, 2011 at 0912

So true Jim–if you’re going to talk about work be prepared for the consequences. This is much more cut and dry than the numerous cases where people have been fired for completely non-work related social networking faux-pas.

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Actual Genius November 1, 2011 at 1044

Even more interesting is that the policies don’t allow for negative comments in any form about Apple partners. So you can’t go griping about how ATT sucks or how Sprint has crappy customer service or Adobe overprices their stuff.

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JKT November 1, 2011 at 1234

“In this case, a co-worker was one of Crisp’s Facebook friends, and copied the posts and shared them with the Apple store manager.”

Not his friend anymore, I’d think. Seems kind of weasel-like to me.

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Mathue November 1, 2011 at 2321

Or the employee was such an ass that the other employees were more than happy to help the employee to be fired.

If you hate your job, go elsewhere. I’m sure Tesco would be a grade up ;)

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FRMRApple November 1, 2011 at 1359

Glad he was let go. Who wants a guy who hates his job and hates his company helping their customers?

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MrCranky November 1, 2011 at 1857

They probably had other reasons for firing him and just found a good reason to let him go. Policies such as this are inconsistently enforced by Apple Retail – they just want you out the door and find something on you they can use.

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Joe Apple November 3, 2011 at 0642

And do you think that this is somehow different from any other company out there? If I want to get rid of someone, have several ways to do it. I just fired someone last week for 3 completely different reasons – any one of which would have been enough on its own.

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David November 2, 2011 at 1803

As a former Apple employee who left with many grievances over management and policies, this is one area where I wholeheartedly agree with Apple. If you hate your job you should quit (just like I did). If you’re going to stay, then you should be a good ambassador for the company you work for.

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